Conquering Multiple Sclerosis with Intensive Nutrition

Dr. Terry Wahls joins the program to talk about the upcoming 6th BioCeuticals Research Symposium 2018 to be held in Melbourne, Australia where she is one the speakers. She shares her own story about how she overcame multiple sclerosis (MS) with a clinically proven dietary protocol particularly designed to nourish brain and mitochondrial health. Dr. Wahls also discusses her desire to help others with the same condition.

Dr. Terry Wahls is a clinical professor of medicine at the at the University of Iowa in the United States.  During medical school, Dr. Wahls, Founder of the Wahls Foundation and NY Times bestselling author of The Wahls Protocol, began having episodes of pain across her temple – this would be the first sign of a very long and gruelling diagnosis of MS (multiple sclerosis). Dr. Wahls knew that within three years, one-third of MS sufferers have difficulty walking, needing a cane, walker, or wheelchair, and half will be unable to work due to severe fatigue. She decided to do something about it. She engaged in a functional medicine protocol to reverse the symptoms of MS by using vitamins, minerals, antioxidant rich foods and essential fatty acids to go from wheelchair to riding 29 kilometres in one day. Today she uses this approach on hundreds of her patients who seek her out worldwide. In 2011, Dr. Wahls presented a TEDx talk called ‘Mind your Mitochondria’ which went viral with nearly three million views.


Tabetha Moreto: Hello everyone. Welcome to Health Professional Radio. I’m your host for today, Tabetha Moreto. Our guest today is Dr. Terry Wahls, a clinical professor of medicine at the University of Iowa in the United States. Today, we’re going to talk about the 6th BioCeuticals Research Symposium 2018 which will be held in Melbourne, Australia. We’re also going to talk about how to treat multiple sclerosis with intensive nutrition. Without further ado, welcome to the show, Terry. It’s so nice to have you here.

Dr. Terry Wahls: Thank you so much.

T: My pleasure. So, Terry please tell the audience more about yourself and the nature of your work.

W: I am a professor of medicine at the University of Iowa and I was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis in 2000. Now, at that time, I was very much a conventional physician and was very skeptical about diets and supplements and alternative medicine. So when I was diagnosed with MS, I sought out the best MS centers in the country, went to the Cleveland Clinic, took the newest disease-modifying treatment but I continued to decline. I ended 3 years to a tilt-recline wheelchair. And that’s when I would begin this journey of discovery, going back to reading more about the basic science. I would ultimately use science devise, a diet and lifestyle program designed specifically for my brain that would lead to this dramatic reversal of my disease, get me out of my tilt-recline wheelchair and that would become the focus of my clinical research and it would change how I practice medicine.

T: Wow. That’s a very interesting story. It’s good to hear that you are able to overcome this condition.

W: Yes. I spent 4 years in tilt-recline wheelchair. It’s gone downhill 7 years taking the newest drugs.

T: I see. Now, tell us more about this conference that you’re going to speak at in Australia.

W: So this is really an excellent conference. We have some leaders using science and alternative medicine to address how we can optimize our immune function and reduce our symptoms and improve our function and quality of life for those who have an autoimmune or immune disorder.

T: That’s very fascinating. Now, Terry let’s talk about misconceptions. Are there any misconceptions regarding MS that drives you nuts and it keeps you up at night?

W: People think that it is a genetic disease. Because of the genes you got from mom and dad you’re destined to develop MS and that there’s very little under your control.When in fact the genes appear to influence or risk maybe 5-3% at most even if you have two parents with MS. The vast majority of risk is due to the environmental factors such as diet quality, physical activity level, social networks, environmental exposures. These are things that people can control.

T: That’s good. Thank you so much for clearing up those misconceptions and I hate to admit this but I’m one of those people who used to believe that MS is a genetic disease.

W: Well, don’t feel bad. I had thought it was lots of genetics and that there wasn’t much under my control and that’s where I started out. But obviously, I have learned a great deal sense that there is a great deal under our control that we can do.

T: Excellent. Now, let’s go back to intensive nutrition. A while ago, you were sharing your story about how it was able to help you with your condition. So can you tell our audience how can intensive nutrition help others with multiple sclerosis?

W: What we’ve observed is that most of us in the United States and probably here in Australia as well, the quality of our diet has just really fallen. We’re eating so few vegetables. In the U.S it’s 1/2 servings a day. I know CSIRO, if I got the initials correct, say that 80% of Australians don’t eat sufficient numbers of vegetables because we’re filling up on sugar and white flour, really yummy, delicious, inexpensive processed foods. So our brains do not have the building blocks they need to maintain and repair our brains to build the structures we need for a healthy immune function or a healthy brain and that contributes mightily to the severity of our diseases.

T: That’s true. I agree with you. Nowadays, a lot of people eat too much junk food, too much sugar and too much flour and another thing I have to admit I’m guilty of that. So, thank you for coming on the show because of you, people are becoming educated about how nutrition can actually help us even with people with the condition that you had.

W: Yes. Absolutely.

T: Thank you so much, Terry. I would love to chat with you more but we’re running out of time but before we go Terry, what is your main takeaway message to all of our listeners out there? What would you like to tell them?

W: Well, two things. Swap out the processed foods for vegetables and learn more by picking up my book The Wahls Protocol. I go into great detail and visit my website to learn more about many things under your control.

T: Fantastic. And those who want to contact you, how can they do that?

W: Again, reach me at and you can learn more about the many ways that you can get better control of your health.

T: Fantastic. Thank you so much, Terry for coming on the show. It was a pleasure having you.

W: Thank you very much.

T: And that was University of Iowa clinical professor of medicine, Dr. Terry Wahls. If you liked this interview transcripts and archives are available at We’re on all social media platforms. So don’t forget to follow, like and subscribe. Show us some love by subscribing to our HPR YouTube channel. We’re also available for download on SoundCloud and iTunes. I’m Tabetha Moreto and you’re listening to Health Professional Radio.

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