Healthy Weight Loss [Interview][Transcript]

dr_charles_mahl_healthy_weight_lossGuest: Dr. Charles Mahl
Presenter: Neal Howard
Guest Bio: Dr. Mahl is a former retinal surgeon. Following his own issues with back and hip pain he entered into his second career in regenerative medicine. His specialties are pain management using prolotherapy and stem cells to eradicate pain and negate surgery. Dr. Mahl is sought about by fellow physicians, celebrities and individuals from across the country and the US to be trained or treated by him. For more information, visit GenLife.

Segment overview: Dr. Charles Mahl, MD, FACS, FICS, talks about healthy weight loss.

Health Professional Radio – Healthy Weight Loss


Neal Howard: Hello and welcome to Health Professional Radio, I’m your host Neal Howard. Thank you for joining us today on the program. Our guest in studio is Dr. Charles Mahl, he’s a former Retinal Surgeon whose practice was ranked number 40 in the nation out of fifteen hundred. Now following his own issues with back and hip pain he entered to his second career in regenerative medicine. His specialties are pain management and using prolotherapy. He’s here today to talk with us about one aspect of his practice which is weight loss management. Welcome to the program Charles.

Dr. Charles Mahl: Thank you Neal. Happy to be here.

N: Thank you.

M: Happy to be here.

N: Talk a bit about your background, I mentioned that you’re a former eye doctor. What happened?

M: That’s correct. Well I went from eye surgery I was forced to prematurely retire because I had lots of issues with my hips and my low back. Some of which was hereditary some of which was occupational and I simply couldn’t sit anymore for any length of time and do complex microsurgery. So I basically just plotted along with routine conventional orthopedic care, neurosurgical care and pain management and then things got bad again on me even after my retinal career that I was looking for some relief of my pain in these areas and I didn’t want more surgery and discovered the words ‘regenerative medicine’ and ‘prolotherapy,’ learned all about it, sought out a confidant physician experienced in the art and science of performing these treatments and went through the treatments and lo and behold it really helped me tremendously to the point that I was so excited about it that I said ‘I’m gonna learn about this’ because if I didn’t know about it for 30 years as a physician then there’s got to be lots of people who don’t know about it and who aren’t being offered these types of treatments and who could probably or possibly be helped by them. So I spent almost all over 3 years learning how to do it and with one of the top orthopedists in the United States who won the Lifetime Achievement Award at the Orthopedic National Meetings and what-not and after 3 years I was confident, went out on my own and from there it’s taken off where I lecture all over the United States, in Latin America and what-not, trained and teach other doctors and take care of patients really all over the world. So from that I got into not just the regenerative medicine but obviously weight loss and age management medicine. And weight loss is one of the big things that we talked about because often patients come in and they’re in their 50s and they’re 20 lbs. overweight and they’d go ‘Doc what can I do? I want to lose my weight.’ and they’re looking at me they really want a pill, I can tell right away they want a pill and I go ‘No, we don’t have that.’ And weight loss is one of those things that it’s probably one of the toughest things to treat in the medical practice that if you watch TV late at night it looks like there’s 500 different supplements that one can take and a quick fix to make you better and to lose weight but it’s not there. That’s an unregulated industry these supplements and a very few of them really, really do what they’re intended to do but with that said weight loss has about a 10% success rate in anyone’s practice, I’m taking about losing anywhere from 20 lbs. to 50 lbs. or more. Forget people who need to lose a hundred lbs. or more that’s a different subject but most people end up on quick diets, they’d lose their weight that they wanted to very quickly and they’re so happy that they start eating more and then they gain more weight than they had before and yes we see that probably 90% of the time. So my philosophy of weight loss is to do it slowly, take your time losing weight and develop good habits of what you’re putting in your mouth and learning how to be sophisticated really and well educated as to what you’re eating and the calories you’re taking in and that if you it all for a longer period of time you’ll keep the weight off and be a success. So that’s really what I train my patients to do which is calorie restriction, I call it the ‘pearls’ – these things we know about but we never do – and I also preface it by saying ‘Look, nobody does this 100% of the time but if you could do it 4 out 5 times or 80% of the time you’re gonna hit a homerun and you’ll be successful at accomplishing your goals. If you’re serious about it and if you’ve made a commitment to yourself.’ And most people sometimes unfortunately need a life event to scare them into losing weight or doing the right thing, let’s say stopping smoking or excessive alcohol. So hopefully you can get the patients before they have that life event and get them to do the right thing before. And with eating, a few pearls that I talk about are when we all go out to eat anytime, you go out to eat, I go out to eat it’s known that when we’re in a crowd of people eating dinner, four people or more we tend to eat more. So I make my patients recognize that fact so now that they’re aware of it they know that in a crowd they’ll eat more so they now know to eat less. I also train them to try any half of what’s put on their plate, when they go to a restaurant or when they’re served something because if you eat half of what’s served to you you’re already getting half the calories. Now the key to that is not being hungry and not craving food and there really are very few supplements out there or drugs that can stop your craving for food without giving you side effects like a raising heart or feeling restless or not being able to sleep at night. So you really have to manage all these things on an individual basis with patients and go from there but basically calorie restriction, not eating empty calories like cookies and crackers and things like that and sticking to things that really, really work for you, proteins, chicken, fish, occasional meat, vegetables, fruits these are the things that we all know are good, they’re not good when they’re fried, fried foods just are bad for everybody. So again, these are things that everybody knows about but do we all follow it? No. I love pizza, I’m guilty. I love a cheeseburger, I’m guilty. And it’s not there to have it all the time but if you’re doing it 4 or 5 times a week you’re gonna gain weight and it’s tough to pull the weight off once you have it on you. So that’s said I give my patients a 4 or 5 paged brochure on all these pearls and most of them go ‘Yeah, I know that doc. I don’t follow it but I know it.’ And we laugh about it and if they’re committed they start following it and they start changing some of the bad habits we have is the what foods we’re putting in our bodies and keeping it clean. And it’s the same thing as taking care of our car, we take care of our cars better than we take care of ourselves. We always, we know to change the oil in our cars, we know to put good gasoline in, we know to clean the car inside and out but very few people really do it to their own personal bodies. So that’s sort of how we talk about these things and what I ask my patients to do and I get them involved in an exercise program and again my key to that is saying ‘At least 3 days a week, 45 minutes of time. The more the better. Don’t overdo it.’ Exercise does not make you lose weight even though you exercise you’re losing calories. What exercise does is it tones up your muscles and gives you strength, so there’s an emotional and a physical benefit from exercise but the weight loss really comes from eating less, the less calories you put in the more weight you’re gonna lose and that’s the key really to weight loss.

N: Is it always about weight loss? In your experience at GenLife, do you ever encounter patients who simply want to manage weight or perhaps gain weight so that they can attain a healthy weight?

M: I’ve had patients who come in who have minimal muscle tone and in the process of eating healthy and working out with a confident exercise program, they gain weight because they’re gaining muscle. And usually with any program of weight loss, once people start eating right and exercising they actually in the first few weeks and I tell everybody this ‘You may gain some weight because you’re gaining muscle first and once you gained the muscle then the fats starts to come off you.” So there’s almost the shift, some people stay the same weight for 3 – 4 weeks and I tell them don’t get frustrated, you’re turning fat into muscle right now and soon as that reaches a critical point then the fats gonna start to come off. So it’s a good question, that’s what happens.

N: And where can our listeners get more information about age management, your weight management and your prolotherapy?

M: It’s simple, go to GenLife Regenerative Medicine, the website it’s pretty complete website on all the data, we have a place info at GenLife Med if they want to write us, email us and we have someone who’ll answer all their questions and whatnot and we’re happy to help people that’s why we’re here for, we love helping people.

N: You’ve been listening to Health Professional Radio, I’m your host Neal Howard in studio today with Dr. Charles Mahl, certified in age management medicine by the Cenegenics Education and Research Foundation. He specializes though in the practice of regenerative medicine. It’s been great having you here with us today Charles.

M: Thanks a lot Neal, appreciate it. Had a great time.

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