Treat Chronic Fatigue Syndrome in Kids and Teens with SHINE Protocols [Interview][Transcript]

Dr_Jacob_Teitelbaum_shine_protocolGuest: Dr. Jacob Teitelbaum
Presenter: Neal Howard
Guest Bio: Dr. Jacob Teitelbaum, Director of the Practitioners Alliance Network, is one of the most frequently quoted integrative medical authorities in the country. He is the author of the bestselling From Fatigued to Fantastic!, Pain Free, 1,2,3!, the Beat Sugar Addiction Now! series, Real Cause Real Cure, The Fatigue and Fibromyalgia Solution, The Complete Guide to Beating Sugar Addiction, and the popular free smartphone app Cures A-Z.

Segment overview: Dr. Jacob Teitelbaum talks about an effective treatment that is now available using the research-proven S.H.I.N.E. protocol, which was published in the peer-reviewed Journal of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (8:2,2001).


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Neal Howard: Hello and welcome to Health Professional Radio. I’m your host Neal Howard, thank you so much for joining us today. Our guest in studio today is Dr. Jacob Teitelbaum, now according to Dr. Teitelbaum, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and Fibromyalgia in children is not a new phenomenon. What is new is that perhaps it’s finally starting to be recognized by their physicians and he’s in studio today with us to talk about Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Fibromyalgia, the link between the two and treatments. How are doing today Dr. Teitelbaum?

Dr. Jacob Teitelbaum: Excellent. It’s always a pleasure to be you Neal.

N: Thank you. We’re talking about Chronic Fatigue Syndrome in children and in teens, why did kids, I mean they’re kids, why would they be chronically fatigued?

T: If you take a look at it, this illness represents an energy crisis where the person is essentially breaks a circuit breaker or for the older doctors blows a fuse. If energy demand outstrips the ability to make energy, things will go offline and the first thing that goes offline is called the hypothalamus, that’s the control center in the brain that uses an enormous amount of energy about aside from control sleep, hormonal function, autonomic function and temperature regulation, that’s a lot in a small area and that’s why it goes offline first when you don’t make enough energy. So if you take a look at why we have the perfect storm for a given energy crisis when our children as well. Look at diet, we have 18% of our calories coming from sugar that’s added to the food beyond what normally hasn’t been in the foods as little as thousands of years, that’s 18% of calories wiped out. We’ve got another 18% like flour, we got all these added things that truly have been stripped so about a half of the nutritional value of the diet except for calories has been wiped out in food processing in recent decades, this is why we’re seeing kids that are obese and malnourished at the same time for the first time in human history. We’re seeing increased speed of modern life, I mean when I was a kid we communicate by long distance…like wow and of this all new thing and…I’m not old enough that needed the pony express but it took a while to… wasn’t like click and then click back seconds later with a response. The speed of life is increasing and also we’re turning, sadly more and more onto…based society where it was okay for kids to smile with their neighbors and the rest in the past, but now we’re teaching both the media and the rest to be afraid, be afraid of everything. The media these days … and it’s taking a toll on the kids.

N: Now you’re talking about kids being obese and malnourished at the same time. I mean have we just been sold a bill of goods as far as, I thought calories that equals energy. Everything else was kind of make the body do what it’s supposed to do but it came to energy I thought it was calories and you’re saying no, that it’s much more than calories.

T: We don’t have a problem with inadequate calories, we have a problem with inadequate vitamins and minerals and other nutrients.

N: All of these that have been taken out of the foods?

T: Yeah. I mean as could gasoline helps a car go, but you don’t want to drive the car into swimming pool full with gasoline and soak it, I mean it just doesn’t work. So we’re seeing problems with that and also the sugar is causing immune dysfunction, you can suppress the immune system by 30% for 3 hours with one can of soda…times the sugar in it. So we’re seeing a lot more of…infections, zinc deficiency especially important nutrients for immune dysfunction, so many of these kids now are getting infections that they are unable to recover from, these are not dreaded infections. Some things like Nano or HHV 6, CMV, HSV 1 common viral infections and even other…infections can either or could grow enteroviruses that the body just has trouble recovering from because the immune system energetically, that child is on the edge and they get what’s called post-viral fatigue.

N: Wow. Is there more incidence in boys or girls when it comes to CFS or is it pretty much even across the board?

T: Two to one female.

N: Two to one female? The study in the UK, did it focus on the higher prevalence in females or is this something that you’ve discovered in your research and travels?

T: This is seen in the UK study and has been seen in thousands of studies and certain studies republished. It’s a common thing that they’ll see that for diseases that affect the immune function, things like autoimmune disease, it’s like lupus for example, rheumatoid arthritis, MS – these illnesses more often affect females than males. A woman’s immune system is both differently, say have to be able to carry a baby to term or and then we have one of the little…we rejected outright and that creates circumstance also certain vulnerabilities. So you’ll see from most immune illnesses they tend, not all of those to be female dominant unfortunately we also see illnesses that affect only females because that’s historically every one of those diseases I mentioned used to be attributed to being hysterical paralysis for multiple sclerosis, lupus is usually called sudden neural disease and that’s what happens to CFS but fortunately we’re not getting past of our cases, the research is very clear that these are devastating illnesses.

N: Is there a link between Chronic Fatigue and Fibromyalgia? I mean often I hear people who are depressed experience chronic aches and pains, is it the same with CFS?

T: Well depression is very, very different and if you look at about the chemistry of the conditions, for example cortisol levels. Cortisol levels are elevated and depression tends to be on the low side in CFS and Fibromyalgia that…changes, remarkably different and response are different so the treatment is very different, they’re very different illnesses. The reason people…called depression it’s directed back to lack of education amongst physicians which is the same in the past which involves some of the persons that must be depressed. So these are very real illnesses that are going on, the difference between Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and Fibromyalgia…if you go to your infectious disease doctor with a condition and come up with diagnosis of CFS, if you walk out on the hallway that your rheumatologist they’ll come up with a diagnosis of Fibromyalgia, for the large majority of people these are the same illnesses with two different names.

N: So let’s talk about the treatment of CFS, if it’s so different from depression and often diagnosed as depression or just being lazy, what is the treatment for it and have been people been treated almost to, I guess tragic ends because of misdiagnosis?

T: Well as in any disease even though it exists it’s hard to diagnose it, if it’s hard to diagnose it good luck trying to treat it. But if you know how to diagnose it, it’s very easy. If a person comes in there and say “Doctor I’m exhausted” or “I hurt allover” ask them one simple question, “Can you get a good night sleep?” if they say “Oh God, no I can’t. I lie there all night, I have horrible insomnia” …and they’ll say yes. And if you worry about depression, ask them “Are you depressed?” if they are, they’ll say yes but depression doesn’t exclude Fibromyalgia any more than it includes having cancer but if you have wide spread pain and exhaustion combined with insomnia, you have this condition. It’s an energy crisis and a published double-blind procedure control research shows that if you treat people with what you call the S.H.I.N.E. protocol optimizing sleep, hormonal function, infections, nutritional support and exercise has abled them…crash and burn. You’ll see 90% of people will improve then average 91% increase in quality of life. These are very, very treatable conditions if you simply treat them correctly.

N: Diet is often a very hard thing to change overnight. Do you recommend supplements as you improve your diet?

T: Well I think it’s a good idea for most people to take a good multivitamin and the arguments are over 500 years ago about taking multivitamin…But now a days with the change in diet since 500 years ago, is that we have 18% of calories now added from sugar, 18% white flour and added fats and other things, we’ve lost 50% roughly of the vitamins and minerals and other key nutrients except the calories on the diet. So I do recommend, the multivitamin I like is a vitamin powder, it’s called the Energy Revitalization System one scoop a day replaces 35 pills and it’s really pretty complete in terms of nutrients, A – Z. What it doesn’t have are… and iron but otherwise it really has what people need and it… is simple this way that this is powdered. We have two studies now that adding a special nutrient called ribose, increased energy an average of 61% in people with chronic fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia after few weeks…wanted the kids to take because it…taste like sugar. (Crosstalk) There is a lot to be done easily.

N: So where can our listeners go and get more information about you, your research, the UK study, Fibromyalgia and CFS in general?

T: There’s a website, There you can see the copies of the studies are available on the website. There’s also a free energy analysis program where people can go ahead and actually the patient can take quizzes, take on their pertinent lab tests, the doctor can do it for them in the lab, we can print that all and send out copies of…protocols and questionnaires for physicians and health practitioners that are interested in treating this illness and they can contact me at Q&A on the website but once you do the energy analysis program it will print out… the likely things contributing to the energy loss which is the foundation of CFS and Fibromyalgia. Here are the things to optimize energy both by natural, over the counter and also prescription therapies, so it’s a really tailored treatment protocol to optimize energy that physicians can use. In addition we do consultant with people from all over the world and many people are too sick to come in person so we do the phone consultations, that what’s nice about our medicine these days. And we do it 3 hours to 4 hours for our patient’s each case to really put together a very thorough treatment protocol so these people can get well.

N: Great information. You’ve been listening to Health Professional Radio, I’m your host Neal Howard. And we’ve been in studio talking with Dr. Jacob Teitelbaum, Director of the Practitioners Alliance Network, also the lead Author of four studies on effective treatment of Fibromyalgia and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and the study on effective treatment of Autism using NAET. Dr. Teitelbaum also appears often as a guest on news and talk shows nationwide including Good Morning America, The Dr. Oz Show, Oprah and Friends, CNN and Fox News Health. It’s been great having you here with us today Dr. Teitelbaum.

T: Neal, always a pleasure.

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