Battling Anxiety [Interview][Transcript]

Dr_Johnny_Kenley_Battling_AnxietyGuest: Dr. Johnny Kenley
Presenter: Neal Howard
Guest Bio: Dr. Johnny Kenley is a certified energy therapist, an applied kinesiologist, an acupuncturist, as well as a physician specializing in physical medicine. He holds an advanced degree in clinical nutrition. He has been interviewed on Russian, Estonian, Chinese and African television programs and newspapers. Dr. Kenley has held many positions including homelessness counselor and jail chaplain. Book royalties and income from his speeches go to the nonprofit Global Medical Aid and Education, which provides assistance to a medical clinic, and an HIV girls’ orphanage both near Nairobi, Kenya.

Segment overview: In this segment Dr Johnny Kenley talks about his experience with brain trauma.


Health Professional Radio – Battling Anxiety

Neal Howard: Hello and welcome to Health Professional Radio. I’m your host Neal Howard, so glad that you could join us today. Many of us, a matter of fact I would venture to say that all of us suffer from some form of stress, tension or anxiety on a daily basis. Our guest in studio today is Dr. Dr. Johnny Kenley, a Certified Energy Therapist and Applied Kinesiologist also an Acupuncturist, as well as a Physician specializing in Physical Medicine. He’s also the author of the brand new book “Freedom from Anxiety: a Revolutionary 10-Minute Process Returning Clarity and Ease to Your Life.” And he is here with us today to talk about anxiety and how he has overcome anxiety and how all of us can do the same. How are you doing today Dr. Kenley?

Dr. Johnny Kenley: I’m doing very good, thank you very much. And it’s a mouthful with all these acupuncture, applied kinesiology, all those things.

N: You’ve been busy. How can you be involved in so many things and have so many things going on and yet be free of anxiety?

K: Oh I’m very very blessed, that is for sure.

N: I understand that you suffered a traumatic head injury in your life. Could you tell us a little bit about how that injury affected you? How you recovered from that injury? And what you’re doing now as a result of surviving that traumatic injury?

K: Wow. Okay, so what I do is I did this sort of a brief …

N: Alright, great.

K: Of course I’m on rest with the path, I have everything they ever wanted, successful 3 different practices, I got run over by a truck while I was cycling. That traumatic brain injury, I lost my voice for 6 months, and was involved in almost 4 and a half years of neuro cognitive rehab. I lost everything, I have no ability to maintain my cool, if someone bumped in to me I will hit them and therefore I kept myself isolated almost for that length of time. Doing rehabilitation both in clinics within the United States for about 12 hours per day myself.

N: 12 hours a day.

K: Yeah, every day. Seven days a week, 365 days a year.

N: My goodness.

L: All the process was sticking into a microphone and reading things, and I have read about 700 books in my self-help collection with spiritual books, now there’s going over, there was repeating errors reading them many times over in that 4 and a half years. And during that time I don’t know exactly what it was, I woke up one morning and I realized that in my desire to regain my mental mind, my 160 IQ that that wasn’t so important, but the most important thing for me do was serve other people. At that point in time I just directed all back my energies to looking around the world to where I could go, to where I could medically volunteer, I did that from 2006 until 2009 in Africa primarily.

N: Uh huh.

K: But also in China. In 2009 I was invited to teach some psychologists, some muscle testing, were energy psychologists and that’s part of what I did in my physical medicine practice … so testing. And when I realized that just not for testing that I was teaching them was part and partial of my kinesiology and emotional aspect of the persons problems and what they were doing was there something correct, and I saw a unique way to try to resolve people’s emotional issues. And for me the big issue that I saw in myself and others was “fear.” That we are doing, one of two things, we either loving or fearing.

N: Uh huh.

K: Now anxiety, or stress, or tension, or annoyed or angry or frittered are other words that we put on. But basically we’re either fearing or we’re loving. So anxiety is a nice word that we can say to each other and… society accepts it or relatively accept it, we accept if to our self, or in the stress is another word.

N: Now we all heard the love can cause fear or the fear of love. You say that either one or the other, we’re either experiencing the emotion of love or the emotion of fear. Can the two be intertwined without anxiety?

K: No. Just you think any activity that you or any of listeners would have throughout their day. They’re either moving in one direction, so you think there’s a line, you’re either moving toward loving or you’re moving towards fearing. And again it might be just your annoyed while if you’re annoyed, that’s not toward loving. If you’re feeling you’re peaceful and relaxed that’s more toward loving. So I don’t mean the two extreme you hear in dye or fear for your death or you have this agape love towards every person or animal on planet, but you’re moving in one of those two directions. And the reason that I use the word anxiety, you work … in the REIN process or the book that I’ve written, is because the anxiety of the socially accepted in word and it’s one that we use for ourselves.

N: Does your new book “Freedom from Anxiety” talk about, obviously we all experience anxiety, but who among us would you say experiences the highest level of anxiety based on I guess occupation, social status, region of the country or the world? Are there different levels based on the lifestyle that you lead or could you be attacked by anxiety no matter what situation that you find yourself in?

K: I think you’ve almost answered yourself with your statements there in both what you asked and what you said. We can go online, you can look at the most anxious job and you can see that it’s okay, it’s based in this the study and it features in another study and certainly this time of year I just read an article about a student how they vary and how they can resolve that … But the thing of it is, is that we bring anxiety, it’s there to whatever we do. So you may have a person that’s dismantling a bomb but you and I may think “Oh that person has to be pretty anxious” and he can be as relaxed as you could possibly imagine, no anxiety or whatsoever. And yet the 20 year old mother with 3 children and no husband, she may be experiencing anxiety like you or I can even imagine. So it’s very, I’m trying to look for the right word here, it’s not exactly healthy for us to say that this is automatically anxious or that is. So it affects every living person because we’re all conditioned to it, from the time that we’re born.

N: What about balance? It’s often said that everything has to have a balance. How can we find ourselves in a position of always loving with no anxiety and yet be balanced? Is there no yin-yang in this anxiety game or?

K: Well that’s pretty good, there is “yin” there is “yang.” So you certainly have, you could certainly have “yang” which is fire, which is loving and passion and you have “yin” which is cold which is fear. But yin-yang there’s ying and there’s yang. So there’s aspects of each if you want to stick with traditional Chinese medicine. But the balance occurs in that, we’re not on the extremes. Most of us are on the extremes one end of, even at fear of our death and at this complete oneness with God, of loving for every human being in this planet, we sort of ranging between every second of everyday. So there’s the balance, we’re moving back and forth and hopefully we’re stabilized more towards a loving reaction.
strong>N: Now as we wrap up, I’d like to talk about your book “Freedom from Anxiety: a Revolutionary 10 Minute Process Returning Clarity and Ease to Your Life.” Now in this book, you outlined you’re 7 step process that well basically anyone can use to rid themselves of anxiety. You say you’ve helped more than 3,000 patients in several countries around the world. Could you explain this 7 step process to us briefly?

K: Okay. So the 7 step process takes you step by step by step. The very simplified things that you need to do, it’s not about you’re not about thinking, you’re actually physically doing something. So you’re working with your meridians of your body, you’re working with the shakras …you working with the … or can you go through these steps. I teach these steps to the children in a reform school in Kenya, in Nairobi as young as 10 years old – boys and girls – they learn this in 10 minutes. And they have the ability to resolve their anxiousness that by being alone, about by being 800 miles in their home, being in a jail. And I teach this with elderly people as well. So there’s nobody that cannot learn this process and I designed it, I refined it so that it is very simple, very easy to understand and when whoever does it whoever completes this process they know right at the very end, when they’re finished.

N: Uh huh.

K: Is the anxiety there or is it not? And it’s gone. It just works and they know it, they don’t think it, they don’t hope it, they don’t wish it, they know right then and there that it’s gone.

N: So there’s no gray area. You either know that it’s gone or you know that it’s not.

K: Correct.

N: And where can we get a copy of your book and more information about you?

K: So my book is available on and it’s available in print and it’s available in kindle edition as well. And also on my website there’s quite a bit of background upon about anxiety and about the REIN process. It also gives information about coaching that I do one on one or in group and the work that I do with government organizations, seminars and workshops, and that talks a little bit about the book as well.

N: Great. You’ve been listening to Health Professional Radio, I’m your host Neal Howard. It’s been a pleasure speaking in studio today with Dr. Johnny Kenley, Certified Energy Therapist and Applied Kinesiologist, Acupuncturist and Physician. We’ve been here talking about anxiety, ways that we can alleviate our anxiety. And we’ve also been talking about Dr. Kenley’s brand new book “Freedom from Anxiety: a Revolutionary 10-Minute Process Returning Clarity and Ease to Your Life.” It’s been great talking with you today Doctor.

K: Thank you very much Neal.

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