Get Answers for Why you Have Pain, Why it won’t Go Away and How to Get Rid of It [Interview][Transcript]

Guest: Dr. Daniel Twogood
Presenter: Neal Howard
Guest Bio: Dr. Daniel Twogood graduated from the University of California at Santa Barbara in 1973 with a degree in physical education. He graduated from Cleveland Chiropractic College in Los Angeles in 1983. He began practicing at the International Spots Medicine Institute in West Los Angeles where he treated many of the athletes in the 1984 Olympics. He opened his own practice in Apple Valley, California in 1985 where he discovered the diet/pain connection. He has written four books, the latest is Chronic Pain Gone 90 Days.

Segment overview: Dr. Twogood talks about his book “Chronic Pain – Gone in 90 Days.” Outlined in his book are the 10 steps to eliminate chronic pain.


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Neal Howard: Hello and welcome to the Health Professional Radio. Thank you so much for joining us today, I am your host Neal Howard. In our studio this afternoon we’ve got returning guest Dr. Daniel Twogood, chiropractor and the author of four books, the latest of which being “Chronic Pain Gone in 90 Days.” He is a practicing in Apple Valley California where he discovered the diet/pain connection when it comes to people that suffer from chronic pain. He’s returning to talk with us about his latest work “Pain Gone in 90 Days.” How are you doing today Dr. Twogood?

Dr. Daniel Twogood: I’m very good. Thanks very much for having me on.

Neal: Thank you so much for returning. Now as a graduate of the University of California back in 1973, you’ve graduated with a degree in physical education. Now when I think of physical education, I automatically think of Phys Ed teacher or a sport coach or something like that. How did you transition from physical education into chiropractic? I mean it makes sense, but how did it happen for you?

Dr. Twogood: Well I’ve always been into physical education. I’ve been an athlete, gymnastics and springboard diving were my sports but I played lots of other sports. And I went from aged group all the way through colleges as a springboard diver so I fancied myself to become a coach, I really like coaching people. And things changed as you go along and I ended up getting a job at a college that paid more than a coach made, supervising grocery warehouses. So I did that for a while, thinking the money was the main object in life but then I wanted to get in healthcare. And so a friend of mine suggested “Hey I go to a chiropractor, why don’t you do chiropractic?” and I called to see if I had the prerequisite to get into school and lo and behold I did, so boom that’s the direction I went, it’s like a lot of things it’s very very accidental. But being physically minded, I went in with a notion that the solution and especially learning chiropractic is the solution to physical pain is physical medicine which is spinal manipulation – very specific spinal manipulation, physical therapy, stretching etc. and that was the foundation of my practice when I first started. But then of course I found out that there a lot of people who weren’t responding to that, just like every other doctor discovers. Whether you’re an acupuncturist or a surgeon you have your group of patients that didn’t respond to what you did and rather than give up on them or refer them out, I decided I would try to figure out what was going on. And I found out that guess what, people have chronic ongoing inflammation which causes pain caused by a specific substances that they’re consuming and that feed inflammation. And the solution is to eliminate those substances so that’s how I arrived at where I am today.

N: You’ve graduated college with your degree and you’ve got into healthcare. And I’m positive that you rubbed shoulders quite a bit with people that practice traditional medicine. I’m sure that you gleaned a lot of good information from them as they gleaned some maybe good information from you as well. So I guess in support of our traditional practitioners, it is not only traditional medicine that can transform with practice and study and research. Even the chiropractic techniques can be improved upon when someone pays attention to what’s going on and doesn’t just adhere to the normal everyday practices that they learned in school, yeah?

T: Sure. You know one of the problems with healthcare for profit is that it adversarial. When you go into a town and theirs 5 chiropractors, those are your competitors, you enemies. And although I’ve never looked at it that way same thing with medical profession “Oh my god my patient went to a chiropractor, I’ve got to tell him that that’s not the way to go because I want their business etc.” But anyways we all do what we do. But know the information that I’m sharing as for anybody and especially one of the hardest things is to go off against it it’s my profession which is chiropractic. Because many of them look at it almost like a religion, they’re called “straight chiropractors” which they believe that the correction of “spinal subluxation” which is bones out of places, cures all disease – that’s all you have to do. And once you get that’s spine straightened up, the nervous system works right, there is no more interference with healing and the body heals. And that’s a really nice notion and it’s true to a certain degree. But if you have a patient who is a chronic smoker and has a chronic cough and I even had a chiropractor in school tell that “All you have to do is adjust the T8 in their spine and the cough will go away.” No, it won’t. Not if they continue to smoking. So we can see that there’s more things we have to do. So medical doctors, I mean I’m not infringing on their territory. I still do my spinal manipulation. There are certainly people who need drugs, and that’s where those doctors come in. There are certainly people who need surgery and I don’t do any of that, so I refer out for that. But we can all put our heads together and come to a solution for these chronic conditions that aren’t responding like fibromyalgia, like rheumatoid arthritis, these are very nice diagnoses. And I’ve had patients come and say “Guess what, a doctor finally figure out what I have.” “What is it?” “It’s fibromyalgia.” I said “Great. So what’s the cause of that?” “Well they don’t know what cause of it is.” “Well what’s the cure?” “Well there is no cure.” So basically you translated your symptoms into Latin and now you have a diagnosis but you have no treatment. We need to put our heads together and find out what’s the cause of these chronic diseases is and that’s what I’m doing. I’m giving this information away all over the internet, on radio interviews. Here’s the solution by eliminating this specific substances and there’s only a few of them. And by doing that the body recovers and you’ll heal.

N: Now you’ve written four books. Writing one book isn’t an easy task, let alone four. After graduating college and working in sports medicine and being a chiropractor, what prompted you to become an author?

T: Because when I started to seeing discoveries, the observations I was making in practice I started hitting all the research. I looked in books, I looked in articles, I looked everywhere and people weren’t saying what I was seeing. So I had to share this information and back in 1991 when I decided to write my first book, I figured well the only way to do it there was no internet then or not very much of one and so I started writing and writing and writing and I published my first book such as it was actually you can see my raw passion in that book. That book is called “No Milk.” And it was because the most common substance that causes chronic pain is one of the proteins that’s in cow’s milk and dairy foods. So I wrote the first book and then I wrote the second book because I made more discoveries. And then the third book I wrote was about a specific substance it’s a very short book. And then the fourth book again because I have more discoveries and I had a better way of explaining it. The simple explanation is all we’re doing is lowering inflammation in the body by eliminating specific pro-inflammatory substances. That’s what took me 350 pages to say in my first book. So my last book is more very easy to read within 3 to 5 minutes or opening the book you will know exactly what you have to do to eliminate chronic pain. The rest of the book tells you how that works, why it works, how you do it, and what you can expect in the process. So I’ve learned as I’ve gone along.

N: Okay, so we’re walking around the cereal aisle in the grocery store, there is no way you can walk down the cereal aisle and not associate it immediately with milk. It’s one of the most common drinks other than water that there is. What other substances that are just everyday what we would think would be just every neutral, docile type things that are actually wreaking havoc on our…

T: Sure, there’s several of them. First of all when you walk down a cereal aisle you’re seeing a lot what’s called processed food. They’re not just wheat flakes, there are lots of other things in the boxes like BHT and BHA and all different kind of things like that. So out in the aisles in the grocery store there’s lots of really complicated, hard to read, hard to pronounce chemical substances that I don’t know what they do. But very specifically there’s a protein in milk and dairy foods called “casein” which is the main protein that not for everybody, but for most people who suffer with chronic pain that feeds their inflammation. And the solution is to completely eliminate casein which means milk, cheese, yogurt, ice-cream, cottage cheese, ranch dressing, blue cheese, all the dairy food. That kind of blows people away because we’ve been told not only that dairy foods are good for you but their essential for your health. Which is absolutely not true. It’s cow’s milk designed for cows not for humans, by the way that substance casein as an allergen, which means that the people who are sensitive to it, it doesn’t matter how much they get. Some people will tell me “Well I only use a little dash of milk on my cereal every day.” That is a regular exposure that’s gonna feed inflammation if you have the sensitivity to it. Other substances there’s… Oh by the way if every patient that I see that reacts to milk protein which is most of the people who suffer with chronic pain, most of them react to that protein. Every single one of those patients also react to chocolate, only their reaction is worse. Chocolate is the most powerful cause of pain which blows people away because you’ve heard that dark chocolate has lots of antioxidants…

N: Oh yeah.

T: It’s good for you and that’s why people consume it. But the information that I share with people about these foods now they effect you is not something that you have to theorize about. It’s like “Okay I give you a little hint here about what’s might be causing your problem. Why don’t you go out and find out if this is true or not?” And there’s only one way, eliminate those substances and see if you see a change in your symptoms, which most people will see. And then the knocker will be when you feeling good and then one day you have some chocolate or you have some milk and you see the inflammation come back again and you see the pain. Once you see that 2 or 3 times you’ll realize that the information is true. So it’s not something you have to theorize about.

N: You were talking a moment ago about a straight chiropractic. I don’t think that that term or that ideology just sprung up. Was there ever a time in history when say straightening the spine would cure, pretty much everything that you had or is that something that has never existed? I guess my question is, is it because of today’s lifestyle and the chemicals and the things and the way that we process our food today that makes even very good chiropractic care a little bit sketchy because we’ve got all these things that basically didn’t exist 50 years ago?

T: Absolutely. We’ve changed, we’ve changed what we put in our body. Everything is processed, genetically modified, preserved. We’ve taken the source of nourishment which is the food that grows out of the planet and pure meat and we’ve processed them and chemicalized them and done all these things to them which is that’s a big part of the problem. One of the reason that there is a term like ‘straight chiropractic’ is because the guys who practice straight chiropractic they almost look at as a front to their belief. If you, in addition, use some physical therapy, use some ultra sound “Oh no, no that’s we don’t used ultrasound, because we just want to adjust and that’s all we want to do.” But there are a lot of other adjunctive therapies that work really, really well and so they should be incorporated too. And the other thing about the straight chiropractic notion is there are some people in their professions that have this overzealousness about it that they can’t look anything else. And so that’s what I’m up against when I say “Hey I took a year off when I wrote my first book and I traveled all over the country and knocked on chiropractic offices.” Went in and said “Here are my discoveries, I think you should use them in your practice, here’s my book. I want you to buy my book.” I’ll put some gas in my tank and I go tell the next chiropractic. A lot of people, a lot of chiropractors bought my book, more than one of several of them said to me “Well if they change their diets and their pain goes away, what I’m gonna do for patients?” People actually said that. And other people, other doctors told me “You know what, I know what I’m doing. I adjust the spine. I get great results. I said “Do you get a 100% result?” and some of them said “yes.” But nobody gets a 100% result.

N: Yes.

T: Even with the information I give you in my book, it’s not gonna apply to a 100% of people. But it’s a huge percentage of people who will get rid of their chronic pain right now who have no hope. So that’s why I want people to get the book, read the information, process it and then practice it.

N: Great. Now as we wrap up in addition to your website, that’s D A N I E L T W O G O O D dot com. In addition to your website, where can our listeners get a copy of your latest book “Chronic Pain Gone in 90 Days” and your three previous works as well?

T: As with anything you can get anything you want on the internet. There are lots of YouTube videos of me during a talk but my books exist in electronic form. And you can get them on kindle, nook, iBooks, you can download a Google app onto your phone if you type in “Chronic Pain Gone in 90 Days” on your Google app store, my book will come up you can download it on your phone for 99 cents. It has all the pictures, it has labels of food, it has all the information you need. So get a hold of the book it’s at Barns and Noble, my name is out there T W O G O O D and you can find lots of information about me. And please use the information though to change your life, to change your pain, and to tell others who you know are suffering and are not getting any help.

N: Great, great. You’ve been listening to Health Professional Radio. Our guest in studio today is Dr. Daniel Twogood graduate of the University of California at Santa Barbara class of 1973. Currently practicing chiropractic in Apple Valley California. He discovered a diet/pain connection and has written four books, the latest of which being “Chronic Pain Gone in 90 Days,” where he outlines the reasons and causes for chronic pain. Some of which may be absolutely surprising to you. And also how to get rid of this chronic pain in as little as 90 days. It’s been great having you here with us today Dr. Twogood.

T: Hey thanks very much Neal. I really enjoyed it.

N: Thank you so much. Transcript and audio of this program are available at and also at And you can subscribe to our podcast on iTunes.

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