Traditional Chinese Medicine: Digesting the Universe [Interview][Transcript]

Nan_Lu_OMD_Traditional_Chinese_MedicineGuest: Master Nan Lu
Presenter: Neal Howard
Guest Bio: Master Nan Lu, OMD, is a teacher of traditional Chinese medicine and holds a doctorate in traditional Chinese medicine (TCM) from Hubei College of Traditional Chinese Medicine, Hubei, China. Additionally, Master Lu is a New York State–licensed acupuncturist (TCM) and his latest work Digesting the Universe: A Revolutionary Framework for Healthy Metabolism Function offers a revolutionary framework for looking at conditions related to metabolic syndrome.

Segment overview: Master Nan Lu, OMD, is here to talk about his latest work “Digesting the Universe: A Revolutionary Framework for Healthy Metabolism Function.”

Health Professional Radio – Digesting the Universe

Neal Howard: Hello and welcome to the program, I’m your host Neal Howard. Thank you so much for joining us here on Health Professional Radio. Our guest in studio is Master Nan Lu, he holds a Doctorate in Traditional Chinese Medicine. He’s here today with us to talk about his latest work, Digesting the Universe: A Revolutionary Framework for Healthy Metabolism Function. Welcome to Health Professional Radio Master Lu.

Master Nan Lu: Hi.

N: Thank you so much for joining us today. You are a New York State licensed Acupuncturist but Traditional Chinese Medicine is so much more than acupuncture, isn’t that right?

L: It is, so acupuncture is only one kind of modality in the Chinese medicine. So the Chinese medicine deals with the disease and illness in all the different kinds of technique, so acupuncture is only one kind. So because we can licensed acupuncture so that’s why people get a license, no one get a license for herb yet.

N: Tell us a little bit about your background.

L: So well I have many years in the martial arts training when I was very, very young and then later wanted to the medical school. The most important I’m constantly training with my Masters for the martial arts masters and for the Qigong Masters. So they gave me the unique way to understand Chinese medicine and form an energetic level. So when we say that Chinese medicine is based on the chi but if you will not practice Chinese chi with…then the chi just a fundamental concept just a vocabulary unless your real goal for chi comprises real understand chi is real, is not just a concept thing that Chinese medicine will make a profound way particularly when you do the herb, when you do the Chinese Qigong or you do the even good acupuncture then everything will become, you need everything become profound way.

N: So do you need all of these methodologies in conjunction or can you use each one separately?

L: I think when they start to use in the real situation then everything is connect. So they almost like the called the background so that all of these kinds of training just to make yourself be profound so when the healing start then the needle is not just a needle, it is …behind the needle is a consciousness, behind the needle is energy. So all the wisdoms and the consciousness that we will focus on that tiny needle, so that’s why the treatment would be more profound, the healing can go beyond the disease and the illness.

N: Now you say you’ve been a practitioner of the Martial Arts since you were very young and then went into the field of medicine. What exactly is your specialty as a Grandmaster?

L: Well my specialty, how do I put this? My specialty is that I can see the patients when we say, so when the patient come to me now, now what I see another just see an illness and a disease. So when I see is called the gift of the patient, what I see that’s what life of purpose, now I see not to look at the disease and the illness anymore, I look at as energy, think of this whole concept is energy, is a communication. So now you look at the disease and the illness become communication.

N: Are you saying that you can use a person’s own energy in order to heal the illness that you see within them?

L: No, it’s not that. I can see the patients why they use their own energy created these… conditions then what is the gift of this patient then I can guide that gift towards to the healing processing. Think about that I will say, I will always to tell my patient “You don’t have to suffer yourself to get your purpose. If you want something, you can say different way without to torture yourself”…

N: So but just basically change your outlook on the situation?

L: Yes, that’s right. So this way you give the patients to have hope, give the patient have opportunity to let them see they are holding the gift, they can hold the key to heal themselves.

N: Now you’ve written Digesting the Universe: A Revolutionary Framework for Healthy Metabolism Function published earlier this year. Talk about this latest work, Digesting the Universe, why did you write this book?

L: Because as of today we always talk about the metabolic symptoms and when we talk about the metabolic symptoms of disease and many people always focus on the food, how to eat. So then we think about the…say “Why we always think about the food or think about the something digestive systems?” And that means we are too little, right? Today’s science, in the modern science where…discover everything’s about the energy. So if everything’s about energy then when we talk about the food, it is a food energy, right? And then the food energy is not enough because of food just become as manifested, manifested from the universe. So we saw these food, can we really get all the information from the universe? Then that concept that become much bigger. So the Chinese medicine always say, instead that we say metabolic symptoms we say digesting the function. Can you digest the whole universe? So that’s why we say “Can you digest the universe?” so all the universe becomes the food then you are not just to focus on the food anymore, you focus on the universe, you focus on the consciousness, you’re focused on energy, being focused on life purpose.

N: Who is your audience? Is your audience the lay person or are you trying to introduce western practitioners to traditional Chinese medicine and convince them to integrate the two? Or is it a combination of both types of audiences, both types of readers?

L: It’s a very good question. So at the beginning I start which is when talking to my patients…talk about the a lot for the professionals because what they’re all looking for this kind of answer how do we deal this metabolic symptoms? How do we deal the patient so they can heal themselves? So for this book I opened the concept that they see the power is within, the answer is within. How can we really look at the condition from different angles, from the energetic level, from the consciousness level, how can we create the healing, you need the healing work in a walkway which is you need the healing pathway so allow all the organs can function the unique things. So this way we are not just treat the illness and the disease, we treat the root cause of condition, the root cause of problems.

N: Available on Amazon and also at You’ve been listening to Health Professional Radio, I’m your host Neal Howard talking with Master Nan Lu. It’s been great having you here with us today Master Lu.

L: Thank you.

N: Thank you. Transcripts and audio of this program are available at and also at and you can subscribe to this podcast on iTunes.




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