Guest: Dr. Matthew Budoff Loas
Presenter: Wayne Bucklar
Guest Bio:Dr Matthew Budoff, author of more than 700 research papers and 6 books, is at the forefront of the medical community’s efforts to develop early detection methods for cardiac disease and has devoted much of his time over the past 20 years to advancing procedures that can help doctors identify cardiac patients and recommend a preventive protocol which supports a healthy heart.
Segment overview: Cardiologist Dr. Matthew Budoff (USA), unveils breakthrough research on the benefits of Aged Garlic (AGE) for heart health at the internationally renowned Port Douglas Heart Meeting which will host 300+ of the world’s most recognised cardiologists. Each year around 55, 000 Australians suffer a heart attack – that is one heart attack every 10 minutes. Dr Budoff tell Health Professional Radio’s Wayne Bucklar of the health benefits of Aged Garlic. the most recent scientific update shows that Aged Garlic may help to reverse fatty deposits around the heart, reduce calcification in our arteries and lower blood pressure, providing significant hope for Australians suffering from or at risk of Coronary Vascular Disease.
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Wayne Bucklar: You’re listening to Health Professional Radio with Wayne Bucklar. Today my guest is a visitor from America who’s in Australia to attend the world renowned Port Douglas Heart Meeting where 300 plus cardiologists come together for a three day conference. His name is Dr. Matthew Budoff, he is a published researcher with over 700 research papers and 6 books to his credit and he’s addressing the conference this week. Welcome to Health Professional radio Matthew.
Dr. Matthew Budoff: Oh thank you for having me on.
W: And welcome to Australia. I trust it’s a pleasant weather in Sydney at present.
B: Yup, yup very nice. I’m enjoying it, I was down in Melbourne it was a bit colder but very nice in Sydney.
W: And if you’re heading to Port Douglas it’s half way across the country and the weather will be much warmer I can assure you.
B: I’m looking forward for it.
W: Now Mathew, you’re here to address the conference. What is it that you’re going to be telling them?
B: So I’m gonna be discussing among other things some of the cardiovascular benefits of “Aged Garlic Extract” and still on my newest research in that field.
W: Now that’s “Aged Garlic” the common like garlic we eat.
B: Yeah. So this is actually, yeah I mean it’s the garlic that we eat. But this is now aged for up to 20 months and purified. And then this is in a capsule that we used in studies to see if it has cardiovascular health benefits.
W: Okay. And what was the outcome of the research?
B: Yeah, so we took a group of patient and we put half of them on this Aged Garlic and half of them on placebo – no therapy. And the patient who got Aged Garlic actually had less plaque in their coronary arteries, reversal of heart disease over the course of the year. So we were very pleasantly surprised and pleased that it has such a good effect on the heart health.
W: That’s a remarkable outcome for something that we just see as a kitchen ingredient. And I guess from my position of ignorance that there’s no side effect from eating garlic either.
B: Yeah, very few. You know this formulation is aged over 20 months, so it doesn’t have that harshness to it. So it’s easier to tolerate as far as the stomach goes, if you eat a lot of raw garlic a lot of people get stomach ache. And in addition it’s “odorless” so you won’t upset the people around you by being on a garlic preparation.
W: Now I have to be a little bit cynical here. People who are listening to us are generally clinicians and they’re going to be skeptical and say “Oh come on, aged garlic.” But this is research you published I understand?
B: Yup, yeah and you know I started out skeptical as well. I was a traditionally trained cardiologist and I started doing the research with no promises to anybody on how would it come out. And our first little study came out positive and it slowed down plaque, so we did a second trial that was larger to validate it and that worked. And we subsequently done trials now number 3 and number 4. This is the 4th study that we’re coming out with and they’re all basically point us in the same direction. So I think that it’s real and it’s reproducible and I think it’s an easy supplement to add to our regimen for some of our patient who are at risk for heart disease.
W: You’re listening to Health Professional Radio with Wayne Bucklar and I’m in conversation with Dr. Matthew Budoff, a renowned cardiologist who’s here from the US to talk to the Port Douglas Heart Meeting next week. And he’s been telling me about his research into Aged Garlic Extract and the positive results it’s head on reducing soft plaque and positive outcomes for patients. Mathew, with the numbers that you’ve had in treatment have there been significant numbers of patients?
B: Yup. So yeah so you know we started out with pretty small numbers and we now have over 200 patients randomized to the “garlic or placebo” and we’re actually embarking on a 100 person study. So that will bring our total up to well over 300. So wow, it’s not the magnitude that we see with some of the trials with statins and blood pressure pills from Big Pharma. I think that it starts out becoming a significant number of people to make observations on.
W: Yeah, it is. And you mentioned Big Pharma, I guess it’s not easy to get a drug patent on garlic either.
B: Yeah yeah, no I mean I think you know the, I’m sure there has some patents that protect that on this aging process. But because if this is a food product you know they’re not gonna come out with the prescription product and have the upside of this other therapies get.
W: And have you discussed this with other cardiologists previously? What’s the reaction been amongst the profession?
B: Well, you know I think that people are more accepting. I mean cardiac disease, how we took the picture, the “CT angiograms” and they’ve been around for a little while now, there’s been a rebate here in Australia since 2011. So I think that they see the methodology, I’ve done a number of studies in the field so I think that we’ve been having pretty good uptake to be honest overall. And again it’s not because of one study, it’s not cause I’m just showing an avalanche lucky trial, we’ve done 4 now. So it starts to when you can reproduce the work it becomes more of a reality, I think for most of us.
W: And I guess it’s an easy enough trial to reproduce for cardiologists in practice if it has no side effects and there’s no negative to it. I’m guessing that most patients are gonna say “You only take capsule for Aged Garlic and it might improve my health why not, what’s the down side?”
B: Yeah now, and didn’t you know very expensive and there easy to tolerate, the stuff the odor you know some people can’t give a…that they’re taking a lot of garlic this is odorless. So I think the way, I think it’s mostly upside and I mean it’s not gonna hurt anybody to be on some garlic therapy.
W: Do you see a day when people who were generally you know in that at risk category for cardiac issues? The aging and the obese, particularly are likely to take up aged garlic much like we take up fish oil it’s just an easy preventative that might do some good?
B: I hope so. And I’m hoping that I can do the larger studies with outcomes to kind of even from that, in the eyes of the skeptics out there but I do think it’s gonna grow. When I think about my ABC’s of prevention our blood pressure, cholesterol, diet, exercise, average fish and fish oil and to be garlic. So it’s out in there in our little of alphabet soup of preventive therapies.
W: That’s always extraordinary to hear of research, which is kind of out of less field. And what lead you to the notion that garlic might be useful?
B: I was naïve to this as well in my training but this company, this that makes this product has published 700 published trials and pure reviewed and literature on the benefits or use of Aged Garlic Extract. So one of my colleagues turned me on to this preventive therapy that we could study and I went to the company with no promises. I said “I’d like to study this product” and they supported a small trial and I said “Well you know one a study is really not good enough that was only 20 something patients. We really need a bigger trial.” And they funded a second one and you know I mean that there has been a positive. So now were looking at diabetes naps, we’re gonna look at these benefits potentially and diabetes they’rer obviously high cardiovascular risk and might have more benefits from this potential reversal of atherosclerosis with aged folic extract.
W: It’s mind bugling to me that something so obvious really should have taken so long before it became main stream. And I guess I’ll have all a bunch of old nurses listening to me saying “We knew about these 40 years ago but you wouldn’t listen to us then.”
B: That’s right. Garlic back goes back to 2000 years ago, the Ancient Greeks used it as a performance enhancer. So this is not the new that we’re coming up with, it’s just a new look at an old product.
W: And there you have some evidence to back that up. It’s been lovely chatting to you. As I said I hope you’ll have a lovely time in Australia and I’m sure you’ve enjoy Port Douglas, it’s a magnificent part of the world. Thank you for chatting to us today.
B: Thank you for having me on. It’s been a pleasure.
W: I’ve been talking with Matthew Budoff a cardiologist, who’s here to address Port Douglas meeting about the benefits of “Aged Garlic Extract.” If you’ve just tunes in, then you can find a transcript to this story and a sound archive at www.hpr.fm. This is Wayne Bucklar for Health Professional Radio.